More posts from r/ar15 272K subscribers RefrigeratorGold8291 6 days ago Treated myself after getting my Green Card, it ain't much but it's mine and I love it! One shows it compared to a 100 yard zero and the other shows it compared to different rounds. barfolopew 2 mo. Sidearm Sunday: Is .30 Super Carry Worth it? The 10 yard RDS zero does require one special skill - the ability to shoot 3 rounds inside a 2 inch circle at 10 yards. If youre concerned about getting a good zero at 100 yards, you can always start at 50, adjusting so that your impacts are about low, and then confirming at 100 yards. Lets remember this is a speedy way to start zeroing, but you arnt zeroed unless you confirm AT the zero distance. This will be for both my BUIS and my RDS. For flat shooting at longer ranges, the convention for a .30-06 is 2 1/2 inches high at 100 yards. The old 100-yard zero is perfect if your longest shooting distance isn't much beyond that. As a 0311 Marine we zeroed m4s at 25 meters poa and that was poi at 300 meters. This affords me the ability to be a little more precise on smaller targets out to 200-250 yards without hold-overs. Cons: 300 yards is a 9-inch hold over and 400 yards is a 27-inch holdover. I are confused. 36yd zero, then memorize the remaining holds throughout the effective range of my load (bullet's min velocity for expansion, min energy, etc). This gives a pretty good point blank range of around sixty yards. Just align your optic on the black dot and bore sight on the gray dot. Click to expand. 1 MOA= roughly 1 at 100 yards (2 at 200 yards.) Thank you all for your suggestions and input . Kurtis Eugene Warner (born June 22, 1971) is an American former football quarterback who played in the National Football League (NFL) for 12 seasons, primarily with the St. Louis Rams and Arizona Cardinals. It works but i went back to a 50 yard. 1 Quote CENTURIATOR Banned 347 Location:Saint Louis Posted November 14, 2018 I prefer to zero at 36 yards, for the reasons provided in the video above. I saw that video a while back and messed around w/ the 36 yard zero. Your rifle is only zeroed atthe range you zero it at (50 yards, 25 yards, 36 yards, 100 yards)and the second distance will be a close guestimate until you confirm it at range. Vickers Tactical Steel Magazine Release for G43X/G48 (GMR-007S), Tip to Make DCC Clips Easier to Live With from Gypsy EDC, You Can Smell Like Kit Badger Lox and Company Badger Balm. articles and videos are considered to be suggestions and not recommendations from Springfield Armory. Pros: This zero can take your 10.5 AR out to 250 yards. Out at 200 yards, you have a 1/10th of an inch holdover. Nice But why are all the charts grayed out? Thanks. By 200 yards you're already needing to compensate for bullet drop. I highly recommend that you review Frank Proctors video on this zeroing method and my brief comments on how it worked for me before attempting it. Also works for 308 as my SR25 has a Trijicon RMR in a 45 degree offset mount. However there are many who know a lot more than me. Pros: Will get you out to 300 yards. The USMC method sees you zero at 36-yards for the initial intersection and that gets you all the way out to 300-yards. Does everyone need a $500-$750 red dot sight? The Marine Corps does not have a 36 yard zero. Be sure to print at actual size. You need at least a 2MOA to use it at distance much. 36 Yard Zero for .556? The image shown is not to scale. Go run this in 25m increments and see if it still falls within your acceptable accuracy standards. In the offset mount do you do a offset zero since it isnt directly over bore? ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} Personally, I think you are overthinking it. Other Calibers may be used for different purposes so I would zero them according to the primary purpose. Next trip to the range I will be checking this out using M80 Ball. Battle Zero for 5.56 55gr 325 yards equals 297 meters or 300 meters. But by what percentage vs a 25 yard zero? But that is also the round itself not the zeros fault. 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Since one MOA equals 2" at 200 yards, that 5.4 inches at 200 yards equals 2.7 MOA - which is exactly what we will apply in Step Two to all other distances. . With a scope height of 1.5 inches, the parabolic arc of the round peaks at 50 yards and returns once more to -1.5 inches at 100 yards. A quick copy of the original article is below and you can link to it directly by clicking here. (5.56 62gr. The other 2 charts, 50 and 100 are way different as far as bullet drop goes. Thanks. Seekins or vortex precision cantilever with 6-36 razor? 25 Yard Zero - I don't care at all for sighting in at 25 yards. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. In the case of other calibers, the target will likely work but may require more fine tuning when you are able to shoot at distance (50 yards would be good, 200 would be better). Get our new posts sent right to your email! Here's the most impressive thing: The average drop along the whole trajectory out to 300 yards is lowest (-1.36"), and the median average is also the lowest at -.41 inches. The 12-yard zero is represented by the red arc. For the heavier rounds, I'd zero, as jc says, 1" high at 100 yards. I've found a company that offers a 25 yard zero target that will put you at a 36 yard zero. Find it here on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3aAzerSPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/kotaboy32Email: kotabo. The bullet is still rising to meet your point of aim at 36 yards, this is why the impact point is low on the target. This is a case for Mr. MOA. It is useful for many. ._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4{width:100%}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none} For example, something along these lines. From plate carriers, to holsters, to tac-lights to hard shells Having spent time in a lot of environments and with the opportunity to field a lot of equipment, I have grown fond of well made gear. Now, the arguments that Ive read on each of these techniques could put a good, old fashioned Ford vs. Chevy debate to shame. I do them at 75 yards but then I don't shoot enough to speak much on this . Just a fraction of an inch, but I believe 10 yards strikes a useful balance. Thisis why you hear people talking (and arguing) about different zeroes such as a 50/200 a 25/300 zero and a 36/300 yard zero. The old school way you would zero your rifle is at 100 yards that way everything is just a holding above the targetpast 100 yards (known as holdover). 36 is a good combat zero(where just hitting center mass is the goal) but definitely not the best for a precision/long range setup. Of course, it is best to refine your zero at distances greater than 10 yards. Also, a - means hold under and a + means to hold over. inches to zero at 200 yards. Everything inside 100 yards and past 100 yards you hold high. So many abbreviations on this sight it gets confusing on some stuff. keep in mind the AR and the 223/5.56 round is designed for fat engagement. In both exercises I didnt feel I had to work harder to get hits using one zero or the other. The 36 yard zero is nothing new. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} A solid option for shooting a short-barreled 223/5.56 to 200 yards. So long as I accounted for my height over bore, they both worked about the same. Point and shoot from 50 yards to 150 yards. THIS seriously. Horse-shoes & handgrenades The problem is that it forces you to have to think when to hold under a certain amount on closer targets and when to hold dead on. However, many optics will allow you to click up or down in 1/2 moa increments, so if your using a variable just adjust up or down on the turret to match the come up. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs. 36 yard zero Pros: Will get you out to 300 yards. 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Go with whatever you want and simply memorize / write down til you have memorized 3-4-5 other distances where you'd place your dot (Point of Aim / PoA). The AR I have the red dot on is mostly just for home defense and a truck gun. This makes it easy to achieve the POA/POI relationship necessary to achieve the 50/200 yard zero at 10 yards. The original non-tapered heavy barrel is 22 long and has a 1/9 twist. You may remember Frank Proctors method for achieving a 50/200 yard zero at 10 yards with your AR-15 that was mentioned here a few months ago. I should also note that this is somewhat dependent on the height of your optic. I'm guessing that distance doesn't work for my AR10 due to the different ballistic factors. I used the Litz test. Drives me nuts when I have to zero a rifle for 3-gun and the longest range I can get too quickly is a scant 15 yards. 10 Yard Zeroing Target While it is one of those things that needs to be done, no one likes to go zero their rifle. views and opinions of Springfield Armory. ._2a172ppKObqWfRHr8eWBKV{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:8px}._39-woRduNuowN7G4JTW4I8{margin-top:12px}._136QdRzXkGKNtSQ-h1fUru{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:8px 0;width:100%}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_,._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{margin-left:auto}._1-25VxiIsZFVU88qFh-T8p{padding:0}._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor)} Pros: Your largest hold under is about 1.5 at 125 yards which in my book is point and shoot. Pull trigger. Started using a 36 meter zero as a recruit in 1997. Chances are youll be very close, if not dead on. Your largest holds are 4ish inches under at 175 yards and 3ish inches over at 300 yards. Powered by Invision Community. You can also see Frank Proctor explain it here. A quick copy of the original article is below and you can link to it directly by clicking here. unity riser and eotech reticle because 1032 yards is 68 MOA and your highest peak would be be at 120 yards with a 8 MOA peak though technically the top of the bullets ark is somewhere around 220. Cons: With such a short zero distance, you are really Arcing thing bullet. It is a simple target with a 1.9 grid and two dots. It is a clean design that is easy to see even at 200 yards with a 20x scope. How many grains for the projectile and what ballistic coefficient, or do you just want those the same? Cons: Lots of hold under to remember out to 300 yards. Two minutes and a ballistic calculator will show you this zero creates an arching trajectory that rises about 9 above the line of sight at 200 yards. Springfield Armory recommends you seek qualified and competent training from a This should put most of a group in the top half of a one inch dot at twenty-five yards. . This strategy does not provide much of an advantage unless longer range shooting is . The video maker above left SEAL team I believe in 2008. It is about .1 MIL difference than a 25 yard zero and a 36 yard zero on the SKS is really a 26 to 52 yard zero. Pick whichever one you want to memorize the holds for. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSRs, & high-speed gear. good job! they have figured out a target you can zero on at 10 yards which will give you a 50/200 yard zero for your rifle at range. 1.9 should get you close for the typical height over bore of an AR-15 optic. Sorry, an error occurred and we could not sign you up. JMO YMMV Lancer L5 AWM Registered Joined May 26, 2018 4,694 Posts Reaction score 12,908 95% of all shots in USPSA are within 3-15 yards anyway. . I can also tell you from experience that when youre amped up and the lizard brain takes over, youll really only be thinking point and shoot. t of aim at 25 yards, which puts them at roughly point of aim at 100 yards because of how bullet trajectory works. Looks more like that. Cons: None out to 200 yards. Hit it and move to the next target. Mag dumping into trash is more fun than 4 shots per 30min, however.not cheaper #fact. The same concept applies to Marines. I will do examples of this with my 10.5 AR pistol and my 16 inch 5.56 rifle. For a dot, same deal, you can zero at dot at 10 yards, but it will be way off, even at 25 yards. To help keep things on track and provide context, Im using a SAINT Victor 5.56 rifle with a 16 barrel shooting some flavor of 55- to 62-gr. ._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa{margin-top:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._3EpRuHW1VpLFcj-lugsvP_{color:inherit}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa svg._31U86fGhtxsxdGmOUf3KOM{color:inherit;fill:inherit;padding-right:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._2mk9m3mkUAeEGtGQLNCVsJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;color:inherit} You can actually take an 11.5 out to 1000 yards with a 32 ish yard zero. Sight in at fifty yards so that most of the group (5 -10 shots) falls in the lower half of the dot. Put dot on center massfire away and you are GTG out to 300 with no thought needed for effective combat accuracy. Thanks for the video, I'm probably just gonna give it a shot next time at the range to see how it feels. Past 200 it falls fast. Is there a comparable distance to zero to that gives the same behavior? I found 25 meter targets but I guess no one ever did the 25 yard for 100 meter zero. If I was engaging a target past 200 with a RDS, a head hold would produce a center of mass impact 39 yard zero is actually my mpbr for 223 out to 420 with 3 inch spread. If you want to utilize a red dot on a standard AR15, you should use a shorter range zero such as any of the ones mentioned above. I set up a target at 25 and a much larger one at 100 directly behind it. Couple different calibers, keep it the same. Go with a 50 and be done with it. It is a simple method but there are some caveats you will want to keep in mind. However, for practicalitys sake youll want a zero that is essentially point-and-shoot within your desired effective range. JavaScript is disabled. Does that back into a 36 yard zero? If this proves to be accurate this would be very close to the 36 yard zero for the 5.56 round. Ian is a life-long firearms enthusiast and competition shooter regularly participating in everything from rimfire to long-range precision matches. The targets are designed to work with a low mount AK optic sight height (2.25" over the bore) using averaged 123gr 7.62x39mm velocities from a 16" barrel. Depending on your sighting system and target size this could end up obscuring your target, so keep that in mind if you plan to use this zero. Brownells Gears Up to Release What Would Stoner Do? Rifles . Be sure to print at actual size. (I can drive 45 minutes to some good long-ranges, but getting at least three hours free can be difficult). His career, which saw him ascend from an undrafted free agent to a two-time Most Valuable Player and Super Bowl MVP, is . With a 100-yard zero, there is never any "hold under." You only ever dial upwards or hold over. 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Venture, The 36-yard zero is a versatile option, providing an optimal balance between close-range and long-range shooting. . 2023 Jerking the Trigger. I have used the method so much that I created a target for my own use to support the process. 30-30: 150: 2390: 1. Great summary. One of TFBs resident Jarheads, Nathan now works within the firearms industry. Whenzeroing at a closer distance, the bullet will arc likeafootball. FMJ bullet at about 3,000 fps in my examples. So this zero drops quickly past 300 yards. Nice work. Ballistic Advantage is one of the household names in AR15 barrel manufacturing. One suggestion. That brings me to these two options, which Id like to talk about together because theyre pretty similar and do well to exploit the advantages of a practical carbine. I've been trying to figure out the best zero I should use for my red dot. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} You will be able to leave a comment after signing in, AR15Armory.com Red dots need to take advantage of a point and shoot zero like any of the other options. UPDATE 2: It may go without saying but this target can also be used to fine-tune your zero at a greater distance. Repeated trips walking up and down the range and hopefully you are at least on paper for your first group Well, Frank Proctor, from Way of the Gun, and Jerking the Trigger have come up with a great target. Make the charts mil or moa based and redo your anslysis. Easy. This kind of medium range shooting should be easy if you zero at 100 yards and then adjust your elevation for a 200-yard shot. The table below will include drop data using a 50 yard zero, a 200 yard zero, and 100 yard zero for comparison. 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